Season 2 Speculations (spoilers)

[hyndara71]

I was just talking to a friend today about Grimm and the loooong hiatus and that there are only ten more episodes so far. Don't know why but we both started a little "what could happen in the next episodes?" game and came up with some interesting ideas.

So, what about you? Any hopes/dislikes you (don't) want to see in the next ten episodes?

Here is with what we came up:

2.13 Sean's background will revealed. Question is, how many of this? My suggestion: a lot!

2.14 The fight between Nick and Sean at that cabin. Maybe a cliffhanger with Nick getting injured ;D

2.15 A new revelation about Grimm (Ubergrimm-script from Tumblr)

2.16 Nick is finally leaving the precinct, maybe he will be transfered into another or he's quitting completely. Maybe he will be suspended (attacking his Captain).

2.17 Monroe and Rosalee on vacation. Adalind's in trouble because she cannot give the key to Eric.

2.18 Something about the Läufer is my guess. Maybe they will decide that Nick could be a good ally?

2.19 Nick will be acussed for some crime he didn't do.

2.20 Here we didn't came to one mind. My guess is, Sean will ask Juliette to marry him. My friend's suggestion is, Juliette will leave Portland.

2.21 Nick is after a Wesen which will turn out as ... Arial!

2.22 Arial decides after Nick is now free that she will start a second attempt to make him fall in love with her. Maybe she will save his life at some point.

[Helen Bezzo]

Don't forget about the return of Nick's mum. I reckon they'll both team up to defeat Adalind.

[hyndara71]

Mh, not sure if "Kelly" will return in season2. I'm pretty sure Nick will finally team up with Renard to "fight" Adalind and Eric. But I'm also sure this alliance won't last for long.

[klenotka]

Sorry I wasn´t here - I moved into a new place so it was a crazy week

Anyway - I am sure Nick´s mum will be back. Why to make such a havoc about her return and then don´t bother with her? I read in a few reviews and comments "where is Nick´s mum?" I am sure she is out there somewhere, keeping an eye on her son from a distance.

The thing I look forward the most are Nick and Monroe as roommates

I can´t tell episode by episode but I can imagine that a few final episodes will be much more epic and dramatic than just Arial returning (sorry!). This is just a list of what you want to see, right? Anyway, I can see Nick leaving the force in the end of the season, maybe even leaving Portland for a while. In the beginning of Season 3, we could catch up with him on the road, in two or three episodes, watching him separately from Portland (where the scooby gang, involving Renard - and potentially Juliette) will be fighting on their own.

Please, no more Renard/Juliette. I hope they will end it as soon as possible. Make Juliette a character on her own, leaving Nick and Renard behind her.

Adelind could eventually become Nick´s allie. Despite everything she has done, I think Eric doesn´t take lightly when someone fails him. She could ask for a protection - Nick can´t kill her because she is a human (so she needs someone stronger behind her). She may be a first-class plotter but she may still be a valuable allie to Nick (and Renard)

That "Sean" doesn´t really seem right... ;D

[hyndara71]

Good to have you back {{hugs Klenotka tidly}}, I was wondering what happened to you .

Well, the "Arial"-thing ... you know I'm shipping them so, yeah, for me it IS a big deal that she will come back. And as she's the only loveinterest after Juliette will probably completely going lost for Nick (I cannot see them reunited - at least not this season anymore. To heal these wounds will take a LOT of time for both!). And, don't hate me but I'm still on my "there's a theme and I think I got it"-path, I think TPTB will push Nick into a new relationship with the end of the season. So, so far only Arial out there ;D.
Kelly back ... we'll see. I don't see her back this season. Maybe my personal dislike. As much as I love MEM (she IS one of my favourite actresses!) I'm still unsure about Kelly. And in this situation with Adalind in an alliance with Eric, Renard nearly out of control (or maybe completely out of control then), Nick still suffering from the loss of Juliette staying with Monroe, who's in a relationship with Rosalee ... *facepalm*. Put Kelly into that and you have a disaster!
Mh, Nick leaving Portland (for a while) ... yes, I could live with that too

[klenotka]

I think David said in some interview that (while shooting episode 15) they probably want to bring Nick´s mum back for something big and judging by the things happening in that episode (15), it could be soon.

I like Arial, I think she was a great character and I heard she will return so I hope they won´t kill her off as they did with Angelina. She is crazy but she could be Nick´s allie out there (God knows he needs as many friends as he can get).

I don´t want Juliette and Nick together. Like never. I don´t think she could get over it, even if she rememebered. If she does remember, she will be angry about Nick not telling her the truth, and without her memory back, she just will have an ex-boyfriend she doesn´t remember having in the first place. They can´t win. Also, Monroe said that he can break the physical attraction but the emotional is not possible to remove. Maybe Rosalee will be able to come up with a solution but still...I don´t think Juliette would want to stick around with two men, confused like that. She could be a reccuring character but I am afraid there is no place for her as a main character right now.

[hyndara71]

I think Angelina was killed because TPTB wanted Monrosalee happen. And Monroe still had feelings for Angelina, so they had to do something with (and to) her.
About Juliette ... my premise is: will she have sex with Renard she's burned for Nick, they won't come together anymore - never! No matter if this spell can be broken or not. Plus, you are right about the attraction. I don't think Rosalee will be able to delete that. I'm still sure she was the "expert" Monroe called after Renard was at the Spice-Shop for the first time.

Was just thinking about Grimm yesterday and I think you are right about the "no one is safe" part we've talked about before. Even Nick could be killed off as long as TPTB will offer another Grimm (Kelly probably). The main cast is too big right now, I think at least one person will leave at the end of the season (personally I still hope it will be Hank - yes, I know, I'm the only person around).

[klenotka]

Well, I don´t want Hank to leave. I like him this season. I think he is the one holding Nick back from doing Grimm things to their suspects (like beating the crap out of them). But his death is, except Juliette´s, the only thing that would make him an angry Grimm. Or even more angry than he is now. Also, with Nick moving to Monroe, the Monroe/Nick friendship is back on track and it is the most favourite thing of many people watching Grimm. I think Monroe and Nick are the only two safe right now, unless they would make a proper job to introduce a new Grimm - and part of the fun is Nick´s change and development, something that excludes Kelly - she is too coldblooded and also, a middle aged woman. TPTB anywhere have problems to "sell" a show with a female lead and if it is a female lead, she has to be young. I know it´s cruel but it is usually the case.

I think it will be Hank or Juliette, they are the most vulnerable right now.

[hyndara71]

Mh, I don't think Monroe is safe and neither that TPTB will give him more space now after Nick moved in. TPTB is too focussed on Nick/Hank right now. It was such a relief for me that Hank only barely was there in 2.12 (and I'm still fastforward the scenes with him).
I would say it depends on the next episodes (especially 2.13) where TPTB will put the show in: will they leave the procedual-part alone Hank could be ... well, reduced or killed off. If they want to keep the police-story it could be Monroe (again) who will have to pay a price. Well, we'll see ...

[klenotka]

Fast forward? He is there like...30 seconds Also, his talk with Adelind was great

I think they will split it - Hank with Nick dealing with police work AND Wesen attached to it, with Nick and Monroe dealing with other Wesen outside the police station. Or they can all work together.

Kill off the most favourite character (Monroe) is something Whedon would be willing and able to do. God knows that in Angel, 80% of the original characters were dead or...different (body was used by a demon) in the last episode of Season 5. I am not sure these guys, who are "students" of Whedon, could do that. You have to be able to sell it, make it emotional, but also real at the same time. Whedon killed a character when it had an impact on the story and other characters, not to show "because we can and nobody is safe" like some stupid deaths in Stargate franchise which were not even permanent anyway.
Killing Hank off at this point would have a HUGE impact. Monroe, not so much. I mean, to kill Monroe just to prove a point is stupid. Hank, on the other hand, is an integral part of the story now, is Nick´s safety net, his partner and colleague and very, very vulnerable. And they made him very good this season, that fans would actually feel sorry for him (not you but well, everybody has their favourites ;D). I can´t see fans feel sorry for Juliette right now. It would certainly have an impact on Nick but many fans want her to die so it wouldn´t really have much an effect.

Damn, when I am thinking about the whole thing, Hank is very likely the one to go...

[Helen Bezzo]

Awww, what have you got against Hank? I love that he's part of Team Grimm now. I especially love the Hank/Monroe potential for bromance!! ;D

[klenotka]

I have nothing against Hank, on the contrary. I want to see them all working together. Add Rosalee into the mix and it could be a great fun. I am curious about the "dinner" David was talking about, where Hank, Nick, Rosalee and Monroe are at one table. I can imagine some awkward conversation going on in there

I think for some fans, it is like "Monroe was here first, let Monroe and Nick be the primary friendship in the show". I don´t know. I felt it myself, sometimes, later in the Season 2, when they sidelined Monroe but Monroe working with Nick AND Hank was also as great. I mean, they all interact so well with each other (except Juliette, I don´t think she has a chemistry with anybody on this show) and are so great together, that it would be really bad for one of them to die. But I think it is exactly what´s gonna happen.

[hyndara71]

Dec 17, 2012 19:40:19 GMT Helen Bezzo said:

Awww, what have you got against Hank? I love that he's part of Team Grimm now. I especially love the Hank/Monroe potential for bromance!! ;D

What bromance?
I really, really, really tried to like Hank and I feel sorry but I simply can't. Don't know why. In season 1 ... well, he was there, stepping into every single trap any Wesen could have build, not only Adalind. Nick was there to save his six and Hank? Moved on grinning and doing some lame sentences to the next trap. For me he became interesting when he saw Brinkerhoff change and was beginning to going nuts. But then ... Nick told him everything and since then ... I feel like every second sentence from Hank is a "Did he/she change?" That's annoying and I'm sick of that.
True, I see that Hank is the one holding Nick back from killing Wesen but I also think, Nick's mental status at the moment is affected because what he was going through with Juliette. And I think when Nick would have the chance to calm down he would stop the right moment and not trying to beat Wesen to death.

About Juliette ... I like Bitsie and I like Juliette - and i would definetely be shocked when they would kill her off. I could live with her leaving Portland because she doesn't want to sit between all the chairs but not killing her *sniff*!

[klenotka]

I loved how the dynamics changed right after Hank knew. The episode with the yellow fever was great mostly because of his reactions to a new situation. He was like Nick in the beginning of Season 1. I think it was their goal and a little attraction for new viewers. Also, I think they just wanted to establish him in the Grimm world and will move on from the attention to Nick/Hank police partnership to more Grimm related stuff.

I think killing off Juliette would be the right push for Nick, too. In another way. She is more vulnerable than Hank because a) she has no idea what is going on and it puts her in danger, b) her affection to Renard makes it a doubledanger because there are people after him as well and they seemed to notice her.

I think the "bromance" Helen refers to is that hilarious scene where Monroe explains to Hank (and to some still confused viewers, it was obvious) how he changes. I loved Hank´s "Can you do it again?" Also, Hank is always so funny around Monroe because he keeps looking at him as if he would expect the teeth to appear.

I liked 2x11, because I think it was a big line behind the previous episodes with Hank asking and getting into a new situation. He accepted it, he is in it and from now, he will be aware.
I like the idea of the little Scooby Gang (which actually looks like it´s going to expand very soon) and all of them working together. But Grimm is unpredictable (I keep saying that - Whedon written all over it and who knows what happens.
All I am saying is that if Juliette left (left Portland, got killed) a majority of fans wouldn´t mind.

[Helen Bezzo]

Dec 17, 2012 23:09:57 GMT hyndara71 said:

What bromance?

No, I didn't say there was a bromance, I said that there was a POTENTIAL for a bromance. lol. Especially after that episode that Klentoka just wrote about and also when Hank discovered that Monroe saved his life in Game Ogre.