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Post by hyndara71 on Nov 25, 2012 23:01:11 GMT
TV-work is usually more stressfull than working on a feature movie. What was that about last year what I've read in an interview (I think Alex Skarsgaard gave it, not sure): working on a TV-show is about 10-15 sides script a day - usually (for a normal TV-show like Grimm is), for a movie they are only filming 4-5 sides a day, sometimes only 1 or 2 sides, depends on the project. That's a huge difference and when you see that TV-actors/actresses are not that famous than movie-actors/actresses ... I think it's also a question of the insurance, not only about the security. For me it is okay when an actor/actress is doubled, especially in hard and dangerous scenes. But accidents happen sometimes. Don't know if you are watching SPN. Jared Padalecki got injured during filming back in season 2, his arm was broken. They couldn't stop filming so they changed the existing scripts in that time to also harm his character. So, depends on the actor/actress and the injury if or if they not have to stop filming. For David ... I'm not sure after they showed so often how fast his wounds are healing, or better that they tend so simply vanish from one to another episodes (except from the scratches on his forehead at the start of this season). I think the story would be a little believable if he had an injury during some weeks, like ... the broken rips in Game Ogre or the dislocated shoulder, instead of this magical healing nearly every time *wondering why they kept that scratches on a longer healing time*.
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Post by klenotka on Nov 26, 2012 20:23:41 GMT
Maybe they were real scratches That bothers me a little, too but (Nick) wasn´t hurt later. The scratches and the wound under his eye was very much around even in the third episode. I think it depends on the timeline, I guess. Season 1 seemed to be spread across a year, while Season 2 looks almost like weeks. From episode one to episode 5, you have a feeling it is like three, four weeks, mainly because of Hank´s reactions. Also, I don´t think Nick would be able (and willing) to stay on the couch more than a few weeks. If after, say, three months, he would see it doesn´t go anywhere, he would leave anyway. I am not saying that the broken rips and injuries from Game Ogre was a good move - it was obviously meant to be more stand-alone at the time (you can see that in stand-alone shows, where something happens in one episode and resets in another). I used to watch and love Supernatural. I adored first three seasons, hated cliffhangers (the one where we find out what happened to Sam was the best part...especially because I - slightly - prefer Sam). I loved their chemistry, it was funny, good stories but then the thing with Prugatory came, then Castiel, who took screentime from Sam and all interactions were between him and Dean...first episode of Season 5 was the last one I watched. I want to go back eventually, and watch it but I may just wait for the end of the show and then watch it all at once. They originally wanted to end it after 5 seasons, so I guess that plan didn´t work
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Post by hyndara71 on Nov 26, 2012 22:15:20 GMT
Sorry for the SPN-Ot but ... The original Kripke-storyline ended with the end of the 5th season. Season 6 is such a ... kind of aftermath with a lot of Castiel (who is my favourite together with Dean) and ended with a new enemy. Season 7 is ... I say this as a long-time fan since the first season! - meh!. I think if I wouldn't care especially about Dean (and Castiel, who was for a long time ... well ... supposed to be dead in season 7) I would have give up during watching it. SPN is still only a shadow of its former self and I think it was the worst idea CW had not to end the show with season 5 or, just as a little "after apocalypse-feeling" with season 6. I have to say I've only watched the first ... three episodes of season 8 so far - and I don't miss it. So, back to Nick. I don't think the scratches were real but you could be true about the time. 1.22 to 2.02 were about ... two or three days (didn't say Juliette later that she was in the coma for three days? I'm not sure right now). And the time between 2.03 to 2.10 were two months (again, according to Juliette). Well, I would say it depends on different things. I know, I'm annoying but ... when I was a kid my Dad slept on a couch in our living room for more than two years. Okay, that wasn't about that my parents broke up but because my Dad was a huge snorer. BTW, right now I'm wondering why he'd finally returned into his bed ... So, okay, sleeping on a couch isn't the best idea and I still don't get it why Nick didn't came up earlier with the idea of sleeping in the trailer. At least, he has a real bed there. Besides that I think it IS possible for a man and a woman to sleep in one bed without any complications . It was definetely selfish from Juliette not to give him the possibility to sleep ... well, at least one or two nights a week in the bed and she could get the couch. I mean, everyone who had slept one time on a couch knows how every bone in the body hurts the next day. This torture about two months? Well, I know I had two possibilities: 1. sleep at the trailer, 2. get a mattress from anywhere and sleep there. An air mattress for example you can let out the air during the day and move it anywhere in a corner. And Juliette had all the time the quilt and the pillow on the couch, so I doubt it would bother anyone when there were also a mattress around during the day.
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Post by klenotka on Nov 27, 2012 20:22:13 GMT
Yeah, our obsession with Nick sleeping in the trailer That bed there definitely looks more comfortable than the couch. And I think Marie used to sleep there. But there are complications with food and shower. I can´t imagine him being there for a longer time, unless he would go to Monroe or Hank every night to take a shower I think writers just decided to torture our poor Nick so he would have a reason to be grumpy and angry Because the matress makes sense and it is not too difficult to get air inside - it takes only a few minutes. I don´t know...I guess Nick just didn´t have time to care about such things but Juliette could have. I remember the episode 2x06, where Nick came home with burger and fries in his hand...didn´t he even use a kitchen? And how did he use the shower when they had one in their room? Seriously, I am not blaming Juliette for it - Nick probably doesn´t really have a time to cook or even is not a good cook (I can´t wait to see him eating Monroe´s food ) - but the more I watch season 2, the more it looks like Juliette almost treated him as a guest in a hotel, not as a boyfriend (who she doesn´t remember but it doesn´t mean she should treat him that way). Juliette was in coma for three days. There is a joke about it somewhere ("not bad for a girl who was in coma for three days"). So the time in S2 seems to be much slower and I like that. It is like all Nick´s life fell apart only in a very short time (which it did) and when you think about it, one year is not too long in a human life but obviously, it can change your life and that´s what happened to Nick. And I think his last real smile was on his face after Juliette woke up. After that, it was only anger and frustration. He smiled occassically later but it was a normal smile, not that real joyful smile makes even your eyes bright. So hopefully after this is solved, something from old Nick could be back (I LOVE Grimm Nick and I like whump but geez, he really needs a break ) Supernatural OT - I couldn´t stand Castiel. And because I always loved Sam and Dean together, he was this distracting element that divided them (now I sound as a jealous fan but I really think it hurt their chemistry). Also, Dean in his presence constantly cried. I think he cried the whole season 4. Also, I am an atheist so the whole hell/angels/god thing was a little too much. I don´t mind hints or when they deal with a religious topic smartly, but I hated it here - in Castiel. He took a body of a man who had a wife and a family and then went back to them, telling them that their husband and father is an angel now. What a comfort. Maybe I remember it wrong but I just disliked him. It seems we have some very different opinions about some things
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Post by Helen Bezzo on Nov 27, 2012 21:15:45 GMT
Straying away from the original topic of David's acting now!! lol
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Post by hyndara71 on Nov 27, 2012 21:56:27 GMT
My, it was soooo damned cute to see him the two times now waking up at the trailer! So, I'm pretty happy with this obsession ;D. And about food and shower ... it doesn't seem to me that Nick is cooking too often. Everytime, besides when he was invited by Juliette, he was eating some fast food (burger and fries, sandwiches, etc.) - oh no, one time he made himself eggs *wow! pretty complicated*, so as long as there is some fast-food-restaurant in reach I don't see a problem - well, besides Nick#s health after a long time on such a diet . Shower ... well, why not? Or there should also be showers at the precinct. Besides, in 2.12 he weared the same jeans during the episode, he only changed the shirt. So, I'm not sure if he really had access to the bath. I could imagine that Nick only could use the bath/shower/whatever else in the master-bathroom when Juliette wasn't at home. Well, I can't wait to hear with what Monroe will come up with during their dinners . During season 1 it seems like Nick never had the chance to eat everything when Monroe was around - OMG right now I have this "nice chatter" in 1.10 in mind LOL ... My, I'm complaining since 2.04 that Nick needs a break! And I really hope, they will give him some time after whatever will happen in the next episode(s). He really deserve some time to rest and calm down. SPN-OT: I don't have a problem with different views and likes and/or dislikes. The world would be a boring place without different views
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Post by klenotka on Nov 28, 2012 20:24:19 GMT
I can see Nick taking the trailer on the road after a season or two. He could be away only for one or two episodes but it would be interesting. I am beginning to think that this kind of a trailer, cute as it is, is a little impractical and it looks pretty full. If Nick will go on in a tradition and filling other books and bringing stuff in, there isn´t a place where to put it Hmm, what is still OT around here? ;D
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Post by hyndara71 on Nov 28, 2012 21:14:31 GMT
End of the season? Depends on when Monroe will throw him out of his house . Nah, the Boyz will be brave together. You know I'm far away from being a Slasher but I really, really love this situation (Nick stays at Monroe's). OT, upps, sorry. That was me. I did my answer yesterday during Helen posted her notice. Bad Hyn! To speak with Adalind: Where were we? Oh yes, David. Just rewatched *again* 2.12 today and ... Godness! ... his face at the end of the episode *thud*. He's really getting better and better with showing subtle emotions. And in the last second before they are moving the scene to Sean ... I swear to every God I know I really fear this look in Nick's/David's eyes. That's bloodlust! Very well acted, so well acted. To come back to the "sleeping in the trailer" ... David really looks dizzy when the cell wakes him up - so cute! During capturing that scene (for art, sorry, Helen!) I saw that he'd managed it to ... well, I think I will have another question IF I will ever meet this guy. I'm really wondering if he really felt asleep before that scene like Bitsie was during Juliette's coma. It's such a cute moment!
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Post by klenotka on Nov 28, 2012 22:14:19 GMT
I love it , too. It is also well directed and staged. He looks like he just collapsed on the bed the night before. I bet it was the best sleep he had in weeks Yes, Nick and Monroe is a great friendship. I didn´t really think Nick would move out and left Portland. But he may just want to get out for a while, to clear his head for a month or two. I can almost see him leaving, without saying a word and then suddenly appear at Monroe´s door again...with Monore giving him one of his looks...and then letting him in again You know which is my favourite scene, right? Just the one before he takes Juliette to the trailer, when he stands at the door, giving up, and making a decision to tell her. He looked so sad, resigned, his eyes dark and tired, shoulders down...it was a great scene where he could have shown the subtle acting as well. I love actors who can work with their face, eyes as well as body language (that´s probably why I love Hugh Jackman so much...eek, not getting into OT here )
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Post by hyndara71 on Nov 28, 2012 22:33:41 GMT
That's your favourite too? I think besides the "how to clean a house by using a BabyGrimm" in 1.08 and now the end of 2.12 it's one of the scenes I watched the most times, oh, yes, and in 1.13 there are some scenes I really love to watch and watch again (when Nick is sitting at his desk and reading the report from the accident where his father died). What I love in 1.13 is that David is managing to give a face to the trouble Nick is suddenly stucking in with Farley and the coins and his own past. What you said, subtle showing that Nick isn't there fullhearted. Again, example scene, Monroe and Nick in the trailer and Monroe is translating the German stuff about Schakals and Steinadler. Nick is sitting there but you see that his mind is millions of lightyears away (okay, 18 years in the past ). I think that's a great scene for both, Silas and David, because Monroe is still so excited about being there in the trailer, reading those Grimm-stuff, is needed. And than he finds this camera and Nick is suddenly waking up ... I love this scene ... About the "collapsed" in 2.12. I'm still searching the empty bottles of beer or some harder stuff, you know? Don't know why but I still think Nick's first way after he left the house was the next bar or liquor store. But, yes, I'm with you about the "good sleep"-part. Leaving Portland or going away for a while ... we'll see. I'm still curious how they will manage to fix this situation and what will happen to Nick, Juliette and Sean (or my personal Triangle of Doom). My, I still don't get it! Usually you can chase me away with such drama-stuff *shakes head in disbelief*, on Grimm ... I'm with everyone (at least I'm also with Adalind and you know I'm with Juliette).
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Post by klenotka on Nov 29, 2012 19:46:11 GMT
I love drama stuff Well, not in a soap-operish way but with a great character development and are changed by events in their life, that´s my kind of a show That´s why I love Babylon 5 or Breaking Bad I am not sure Nick was drinking - I would love to see if alcohol somehow affects Grimms (real alcohol, not...um, the thing they call a beer in the US ). Maybe they are a little immune to its effect. Maybe not entirely but they need to be aware with stuff that´s going on around them. It will be exciting to hear more about Grimm physiology , if they will be willing to show us something. I think he was just going around in his car, and too tired to drive, he went to the trailer. I have specific scenes I watch more times - the first glimpses of Grimm in 1x03, when Nick forces Adelind to change into Hexenbiest or when he threatens Freddie. It´s not the "Grimm look" he has now but I noticed he was pretty scary already. He uses his body to be...bigger, more imposing. Now, when he "threatens" someone, he still does that, but he also uses eyes and...just is more Grimm now. I love that development and I am glad someone was smart enough to write it down and make David do that
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Post by hyndara71 on Nov 30, 2012 0:21:18 GMT
Babylon 5 is a love of mine too. About Breaking Bad ... well, I've heard so often that's a great show but I'm sorry, I cannot stand the background (cancer. I had ways too often to deal with in in RL not to be a little thinskinned). Well, as long as you don't call this ... stuff the big German breweries call beer I'm with you. Mh, interesting theory about the alcohol. Would made it somewhat impossible for Nick to drown his pain in alcohol. LOL for the "being bigger". You know that I'm still think it's interesting that Nick is the second shortest guy in the show and wondering if this has a reason. I mean, besides Sasha nearly everyone would look small but it's a little irritating that the "hero" of the show is smaller than his sidekick(s). David himself made one or two times fun out of that via Twitter. And as he was the first casted ... mh.
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Post by klenotka on Nov 30, 2012 20:10:07 GMT
My mum just got over a cancer. It is a terrible experience but she is OK. Cancer is only a beginning of it. The story, characters...one of the best tv shows imo but I usually prefer sci-fi or fantasy/supernatural. I am not a big fan of detective shows, that´s why I am glad Grimm is supernatural with detective elements (or detective with supernatural? I wouldn´t even notice David is small. They are hiding it well and I think Renard being higher could actually even make sense. He is a royal and will be (I believe temporarily) a threat to Nick after Nick found out (and he doesn´t know even half of it, he knows only that he is the guy who Juliette fell for) So, you can tell that David is doing a great job playing a Grimm, who is supposed to be threating and scary (sometimes )
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Post by hyndara71 on Nov 30, 2012 20:38:13 GMT
David is 1,80 m so ... that's a normal size I would say. I didn't mean he's small at all, I'm only wondering why he seems to be small in the show. Which is fine with me, btw. Don't know why but for me the typical Grimm-hero (I mean the "normal" guys, not Prince Charming) in fairytales are usually smaller than their enemies. Maybe this has something to do with the drawings in my old "Household Tales" when I was a kid ... But I really have a crush on smaller looking types of heroes - well, besides that horrible LotR-trilogy-movies. The books I love but what Jackson did to them ... I still can hear Tolkien rotating in his grave ... Well, my father passed away because of cancer, one of my brothers got over it, true, but lost one and a half kidney before and has to do dialysis three times a week. And, last but not least, my soul-sister passed away three years ago because of cancer, left a five year old son and her husband behind. Explain the death of his mother to a 5-year-old, that's terrible!
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Post by Helen Bezzo on Dec 1, 2012 14:12:57 GMT
So......acting..... lol
I can't wait to see what further challenges that the Grimm writers will give to David in the next half of the season. I really hope they do push Nick into an even darker place, I'm curious to see just how dark David can be!
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