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Post by klenotka on Nov 22, 2012 22:23:00 GMT
I noticed how people loved David here. On Tumblr, there are plenty of gifs and pics with poor Nick sitting on a couch, crying or with a puppy eyes standing before Monroe. If he will keep up like this, he do really well even after Grimm (which will be, hopefully in 4, 5 years ).
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Post by Helen Bezzo on Nov 23, 2012 17:05:02 GMT
He certainly will! I want to see him on a big screen eventually!!
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Post by klenotka on Nov 23, 2012 20:00:45 GMT
Let´s be honest, men have much more chance to get to the big screen even after 40. Sharlto Copley is a good example - he got his first movie role in 38!. Or even Bryan Cranston. He has been an actor since the 90s and thanks to Breaking Bad is successful enough to get movie roles. David is young - I can´t believe I have a crush on actor who is finally my age. My two other favourites, Hugh Jackman and Robert Downey Jr. are both way over 40 (RDJ hitting 50 next year). Some men just look better with age It is a matter of one lucky movie choice and he is there
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Post by hyndara71 on Nov 23, 2012 21:35:18 GMT
My, he's one age with my oldest nephew ... now I'm feeling really old! I think David also had a lot of luck to get this role. When you look at his appeareances ... he's working since 2007 as professional actor and mostly got very, very small roles. I mean when you look at those roles you also see an advancement in his acting. Just what you said, Klenotka, only how he's acting now instead of how he did Nick in season1. So, I think you are right, maybe in a few years he could make it up to feature movies - if he himself wants so. But for now, after only four years getting the leading-role in a TV-show was a giant step forwards. That this show turned out as a success will be better.
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Post by klenotka on Nov 23, 2012 22:25:05 GMT
I think it helps every actor to be involved with one character for a longer time. He can work with the character, especially such interesting one as Nick He can try different things, and I think directors on Grimm are really good and can guide actors. I noticed they are good with details, even try to be dynamic about angles in which they show characters. It is not *that* rare, since there are great, big-budgeted shows that have each episode as a mini-movie but the fact that Grimm DOESN´T have a big budget and is a relatively small show, makes it all look even better So yeah, I think David was incredibly lucky and you can tell from the interviews and videos with fans that he LOVES it. Everybody on the show love it. I liked David´s interview to the last episode where he talked about Verrat and the mythology of the show with such a sparkle in his eyes, that idicates he still wants to give that role and the show everything I am glad people stopped doubting him - I know that some reviewers complained in the beginning he wasn´t enough of a "leading man", but this episode must have proved them wrong. Or maybe I should just stop reading reviews
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Post by hyndara71 on Nov 23, 2012 23:04:44 GMT
LOL Well, I think then we both should stop reading reviews ... I have to say that I personally appreciate it that he IS able to step aside and give the other castmembers the space they need (well, sometimes a little too much - yes, I look at you, Sasha!). And what I think is fascinating that he seems to be a lot around, standing behind the camera and watching (and learning) from others. I only remember this one small interview where he talked about MEM and that he watched her and her acting very closely TO learn from her. I only hope the success he has now because of Grimm doesn't push his ego too far. It would be a shame if he would change into an a... you know what I mean.
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Post by Helen Bezzo on Nov 23, 2012 23:04:47 GMT
David's star is definitely on the rise. I agree with you, Klenotka, he does appear to be enjoying the role of Nick and that enthusiasm shows in his performance so far this season. I think it also helps that the writers have given him scripts and scenes that have challenged him and tested the depth of his acting. Personally, I'd love to see him playing a darker character because I really think he could pull it off perfectly! Plus, it would satisfy my strange kink for dark and dangerous characters at the moment!! lol
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Post by klenotka on Nov 23, 2012 23:49:57 GMT
So I am not the only one into dark and dangerous characters? Good I think he managed to be "dark and scary Grimm" already in Season 1. When he first came to visit Bud, or Fredy in the shop, it was for the first time he has shown some darker aspects of his personality. But I think the past few episodes took him a little further - he went after that Wesen who kidnapped the girl and Hank had to stop him. The same with that Lowen kid. Nick even admitted there that he knows what is like to have something inside he can´t control. It will be definitely interesting to see how far they can take Nick because he is still the main character and can´t go too far, too quickly. But I saw many reactions that were definitely on Nick´s side in the last episode David just sold it
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Post by hyndara71 on Nov 24, 2012 10:16:38 GMT
Well, I have to say sometimes I miss the innocent smile and bright eyes from season 1 ... But true, harder and darker Nick IS definetely something to watch. And when I read the interviews the right way the whole situation seems to calm down after whatever will happen in 2.13 and I think when he finally find any resolution for his emotions to Juliette - which will cost a lot of time when he's really this deep in love - and he's not challenging in every episode with another ferocious Wesen trying to kill him maybe we will see a glimpse of former Nick coming back. He cannot change back completely that's impossible, but I could see him trying again to discover the Wesen-world without hunting everything down. Well, I think this "something inside that he can't control" is something we all have, but Nick as a Grimm and natural warrior seems to have a lower control-point ... well, okay, if anyone in RL would have to go through (something equal! I know Grimm is fantasy!) he or she would be very close to this point where I also see Nick in the last scene of 2.12 (my, I just rewatched THAT scene yesterday before I went to bed - all the emotions running down his face still make me shiver!). But ... you know, Klenotka, I really enjoy how David is now handling the action-scenes. We had talked about that earlier, especially about his fight in 1.22 with Kimura. When I compare him now with that scene ... *iz nodding* David is good in acting emotions but he becomes more and more advanced also in action scenes.
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Post by klenotka on Nov 24, 2012 11:56:13 GMT
He could smile again, I would like that He seemed always a little more serious, loner type, so with everything going on, I can imagine he has problems to deal with it. Yes, he obviously does a lots of stuff on his own. That is something I like about Grimm as well. Their fighting scenes are great. TV shows these days are much better with fighting scenes than they used to be even five years ago but it looks really *real* here. Even with Buffy (which was great), it looked all staged and even though I admired Sarah Michelle Gellar for doing it, there were moments when I thought she really had to struggle with it. And I am not making any differences between David, who is a guy and Michelle, who was a young actress at the time. Both, men and women, can do it (first stunt school in the world was founded by a woman who basically started a professional teaching for stunt people). It was also very visible in Nick´s fight with his mum. We think how great Nick is, but he is a self taught and not trained by an experienced Grimm. It was nice to see how they made the difference obvious - Nick, who is an outstanding fighter with Wesen, had no chance against a trained Grimm. Kelly was faster and they made the scene so we could see it. I am curious when Nick comes across another Grimm, if he would stand a chance. Grimms are a "family" some sorts so another Grimm shouldn´t be an enemy but I am sure he or she could have problems accepting Nick´s way of life. The scene with Kamura was a clear message that he is driven by emotions, maybe mostly anger, to get to his skills that are probably locked inside)
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Post by hyndara71 on Nov 24, 2012 17:17:24 GMT
Yes, I love that Nick isn't the "normal hero-type", he has trouble from the start. I think this "looner"-thing and also that he tends to have his secrets is the result of the early loss of his parents, his home and everything. I like the idea that this was/is still working on him. It makes me wonder what spell Juliette had spoken over him that he trusted her so much. He more seemed the ... German saying here! ... closed shell. Well, we saw how Monroe had managed to break into this wall only to become one of Nick's secrets until Arial happened.
I think that's the point where Grimm and David caught me and bound me to this show. I like troubled characters and I still think David was good in acting in season 1 too. True, at the start he was a little ... weak but the more you learned about Nick the more I was fascinated about how he is playing Nick and how he had managed from the start to make the backstory believable (at least for me *shrugs*). True, now in season 2 David's performance is great. But the fundament for this season is still season 1.
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Post by klenotka on Nov 24, 2012 18:57:34 GMT
I noticed the subtle acting in episode 6, actually, with Angelina. He has the ability to work with subtle gestures, movements and face expressions. There is a great scene in 1x06 when Hap was killed - Anglina is leaning over his body, crying and then changes...and Hank said "Do you see it?". The camera was more on Hank´s face at the time but Nick had this "can he see it, too?" face (that was before actually a little scared because he was probably worried that Angelina might "lose it" for everybody to see), and only after Hank says "blood on her shirt", he relaxes. Or in "Plumbed Serpent", where Monroe told him that he watch his back after the Grimm was killed? Nick (and David) was like "oh, boy, this is just what I need and it´s getting serious for me now". Actually, that whole episode was a big step for Nick AND David. Time for "being a cop first" was over in this episode. From now on, Nick started taking his Grimm responsibilites a little more seriously. There were those little scenes in Season 1 that made me believe that David is not a bad actor at all. Every TV show has a bumpy start, because actors need a time to create their characters.
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Post by Helen Bezzo on Nov 24, 2012 19:12:54 GMT
I agree with you both. Nick is at his best when he connects with his "inner Grimm"!! ;D David is brilliant at those fight scenes and he does look bad ass while he's doing them. Not every actor is suited to those kind of scenes and it kind of loses viewer belief. For example, just to veer off topic slightly, I'm a huge fan of John Barrowman but whenever he has a fight scene it just feels choreographed and I find it hard to buy into it. I know fight scenes are choreographed but some actors can make it look like it isn't, which is how David has been performing his fight scenes over the past few episodes.
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Post by hyndara71 on Nov 25, 2012 13:38:58 GMT
Well, in season 1 he wasn't this good in doing action scenes. Especially the two huge fights (Game Ogre and Woman in Black) have some major choreography-problems. So I'm really stunned how fast he'd learned to do those fights very well. Besides that it seems that he's sometimes doubled *innocent whistling*. I mean, I get that. Such stunts like the jump and kick in 2.12 (which definetely was his stunt-double) needs a lot of training and I don't think David is able NOW to do those, maybe somewhere in the future. Besides that especially those stunts are dangerous.
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Post by klenotka on Nov 25, 2012 18:56:40 GMT
Yes, it was obvious there was his double in 2x12. It is not also only a matter if he can or can´t do it. He is the main actor and if he got injured, the production would delay and it could cost a lots of money and these days, when TV shows depend on ratings, it could very well mean a cancellation (which is of course less important, when the main actor hurts himself). I think they have specifically in their contracts how much stunts they can do. I met Gary Graham a few weeks ago and he said "When I was young, I wanted to do all my stunts, now I am old and my knees and back hurt. I always tell the younger actors to allow the stuntmen to do their job because they are good at it and know what to do". Also, the fight in Woman in Black was the first really major one (don´t count the Reapers in Leave it to the beavers because it wasn´t that long) so it was to be expected. But in Season 2, when Nick and Kelly fought side by side, it looked great. I think someone else (I think it was Zachary Levi from Chuck, which was also NBC) said they have really only a few days to prepare for their stunts so I think they are doing a great job with the little time they have.
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